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"And now I ask of you, my brethren, how will any of you feel, if ye shall stand before the bar of God, having your garments stained with blood and all manner of filthiness? Behold, what will these things testify against you?
Behold will they not testify that ye are _________s..." (Alma 5:22-23)?
Keep in mind as you read this, first, I will not say what I cannot show you, and second, my comments concerning talks at general conference are not meant to be critical, but to show you how they fare compared to the scriptures. Notwithstanding there have been many very good talks given at conference, what I cannot understand is why these talks are the learning curriculum in Relief Society and Priesthood meetings when we have and could be using the scriptures. And I don't mean how we are using the scriptures in Come Follow Me. But perhaps it validates Isaiah’s prophecy (see below) concerning the methods of learning used by the Lord's latter-day people.
I have heard members say that conference talks are the same as scripture. I don't think this is the majority view, but it certainly seems to be gaining some traction. Those who believe so often quote D&C 1:38 which says "What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same."
They focus on or misinterpret the words "or by the voice of my servants" while ignoring the rest of the Lord's words in this verse. This verse is spoken by the Lord who clearly says that ¹He speaks His words, ²His words shall not pass away, and ³His words shall all be fulfilled. The emphasis is on His words. And He teaches us three important truths, ¹that anyone can teach His words; that ²anyone who does teach His words is His servant; and that ³anyone claiming to be His servant, who does not teach His words, is not His servant.
One way of distinguishing between His words and the words of men, is that His words mean what He says they mean, and the words of men carry no such distinction, but are as the waves of the sea driven with the wind and tossed. With God there is no such variableness. His words never change and have only the meaning He gives them. Men’s words, on the other hand usually mean what that person thinks they mean. One speaker can talk about repentance believing what he/she thinks repentance means, while another can speak of repentance thinking it means something different.
The words may be used but there is no uniformity as to their meaning. Indeed as words tossed to and fro by the wind of those speaking them.
All the right words may be spoken, published and used as the teaching curriculum, but become perverted or as the scriptures say, transfigured, by the speaker, the reader, and those who teach them, thus ignoring the command to "To preach my gospel by the Spirit, even the Comforter which was sent forth to teach the truth" (D&C 50:14). This scripture also exemplifies how words and phrases are used by the Lord with exactness and make plain His words.
And even in those instances where His words are taught from the pulpit, they are often taught in a vacuum without any reference to or attempt to connect them to the whole. Christ, when he expounded upon all the written records in 3 Nephi, was making clear that there is a complete picture when all the records come together as one. Conference talks are like pieces of a puzzle which are mixed with pieces from other puzzles. They cannot possibly be used to make an accurate picture, even though many of the pieces are praiseworthy, and can lead us to His words, where we can find and fit all the pieces together.
You can’t isolate even one word, verse, or idea and let that become a point of focus without taking into account all its interconnections and word links to other parts of His written words. We can do this with the scriptures but not with talks from conference because they lack all the pieces to the puzzle. Only the scriptures contain all the pieces. But we must do the work to find and connect them to form the whole.
Let's briefly examine four words and/or phrases in D&C 50:14, ¹my gospel, ²Spirit/Comforter, ³teach and ⁴the truth. An inspirational talk might include these words and/or phrases, but we cannot assume that either the speaker or the hearer will have the necessary knowledge of His words to know if what they are saying or hearing is the word of God.
But we can make these assumptions in the scriptures because the Prophet writers all use His words consistently and with exactness. If Alma, for example uses the word truth, He knows that the word of the Lord is truth. Which is also true for those who diligently search His words. Conference speakers do not always know the difference and will use traditional phrases such as live the Gospel, a phrase that is not found in the scriptures. In fact when you come to know His Gospel, you realize that Christ was right when He said that by our traditions, we make the word of God of none effect. Specially He said:
"Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. For laying aside the commandments of God, ye hold to the tradition of men.... Full well ye reject the commandments of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such things do ye" (Mark 7:7-9; 13 emphasis added).
There are no traditions of men taught as truth in the scriptures, but there are many traditions of men taught as truth from the pulpit, including at General Conference. And the burden is on us to know the difference.
Going back to D&C 50, the Lord makes it crystal clear. "Verily I say unto you, he that is ordained of me and sent forth to preach the word of truth by the Comforter, in the Spirit of truth, doth he preach it by the Spirit of truth or some other way?
And if it be by some other way it is not of God.
And again, he that receiveth the word of truth, doth he receive it by the Spirit of truth or some other way?
If it be some other way it is not of God" (D&C 50:17-20).
The key word here is truth, which He defines in several places in the scriptures as His word, most notably in D&C 84:45.
Is it possible that much of what is spoken from the pulpit and what is heard by the congregation, is not of God? Christ would say yes, not only possible, but probable. Why?
"And now I, Nephi, cannot say more; the Spirit stoppeth mine utterance, and I am left to mourn because of the unbelief, and the wickedness, and the ignorance, and the stiffneckedness of men; (why?) for they will not search knowledge, nor understand great knowledge, when it is given unto them in plainness, even as plain as word can be" (2 Nephi 32:7 emphasis added).
Do not mistake office with knowledge. One by virtue of an office does not automatically become a teacher of His truth. Some have searched and obtained His words and do teach them with power and authority unto the convincing of men. But many do not, and if we just accept everything that is spoken at General Conference as truth, we fall into Nephi's category of being ignorant, not searching His words, and not understanding great knowledge (His words).
This is why I object to the use of conference talks as lesson material for Priesthood and Relief Society classes. When we have so much of what He has revealed and caused to be written, and commanded us to search, why this emphasis on conference talks? They are not scripture and should not be held out as scripture. It reminds me of when Moses asked others to go with him to see God, but the majority refused. When they were given the opportunity to hear God directly, they turned away and told Moses "speak thou with us, and we will hear; but let not God speak with us, lest we die" (Exodus 20:19).
Nephi had more to say about this. Nephi sees that "because of pride, and because of false teachers, and false doctrines"--which "pervert the right way of the Lord"--the endtime Gentiles (as in us the Ephraimite Gentiles) "have all gone astray save it be a few, who are the humble followers of Christ; nevertheless, they are led, that in many instances they do err because they are taught by the precepts of men" (2 Nephi 28:12, 14 emphasis added).
What does it mean to "be led" if not that sometimes our leaders teach the precepts of men? This is exactly what Nephi means and why we should "look to God and live" meaning to rely upon every word that proceeds from the mouth of God (D&C 84:44), and to the extent that His servants speak the word of God we are obliged to listen and give heed to those words. His words "whether by my voice or by the voice of my servant" are the same (D&C 1:38).
The Lord refers to those who are not deceived as His very elect. And what distinguishes those who are not deceived? "And whoso treasureth up my word, shall not be deceived..." (JS Matthew 1:37 emphasis added). This implies that those who do not treasure up His word will be deceived. This includes those who rely primarily on conference talks, those who merely parrot conference talks, those who post quotes from conference talks on social media, and those who assign conference talks.
Consider what the scriptures contain, and then compare just these few with what conference talks contain. You decide if they compare!
- Literary patterns & literary techniques such as:
- Parallelisms where one statement modifies or qualifies the first
- Forms of speech which by their very nature, conveys a message
- Metaphors that uncover underlying meanings
- Governing structures such as apostasy, judgment, restoration and salvation
- Rhetorical links for example where Gentiles¹ is linked to nations, is linked to us, is linked to Ephraim.
- Consistent use of His words in every particular
- Scriptural links²
- Allegories³
- Parables⁴
- Jesus' prophecies⁵
- Reading between the lines such as Christ quoting Isaiah 52 and 54 and leaving us to read Isaiah 53
- Zion ideologies⁶
- Isaiah* and other Old Testament prophets who walked and talked with God and their endtime prophecies
- Types⁷ or all that Isaiah said, shall be
- The words of Christ in the New Testament
- The words of God in the Book of Mormon
- The revelations to Joseph Smith in the Doctrine and Covenants
- The words of Adam, Enoch, Abraham and Moses in the Pearl of Great Price
- The Lord's definition of Good and Evil⁸
- All the events associated with the Lord's Great and Marvelous Work (1 Nephi 14:7)
- Context--the what, the why, the when, the how, and the who (the players)
- The mysteries of God
- His Gospel⁹ and His doctrine as defined by Him
- Book of Mormon prophecies¹⁰
- The fulness of His Gospel
- How and why we deny the gifts and power of God¹¹
- Expounding of the scriptures "even from the beginning until the time that he should come in His glory--even all things..." (3 Nephi 26:3).
Speaking of prophecy, Isaiah, like Moroni, saw our day and dedicated Isaiah 28 to us, the Ephraimite Gentiles. Neither one praised us, but were alarmed by what they saw. But before commenting on what they said, let me focus on what the Lord said. These are His words: "and when they shall have received this (only a hundreth part of all that Jesus said--the Book of Mormon), which is expedient that they should have first, to try their faith, and if it shall so be that they shall believe these things (these words) then shall the greater things be made manifest unto them. And if it so be that they will not believe these things, then shall the greater things be withheld from them, unto their condemnation" (3 Nephi 26:9-10 emphasis added). Having the book is not the same as believing His words in the book!
Moroni said,
"Why have ye transfigured the holy word of God, that ye might bring damnation upon your souls? Behold, look ye unto the revelations of God..." (Mormon 8:33 emphasis added).
Look unto the revelations of God!
Isaiah did not have the same view of us as we do, and he specifically focused on our methods of teaching and learning. Of all the things Isaiah could have said of us, why the emphasis on our rote method of learning; of our watering down the word of God and accepting the watered down version?
7. "These too have indulged in wine and are giddy with strong drink: priests and prophets have gone astray through liquor. They are intoxicated with wine and stagger because of strong drink; they err as seers, they blunder in their decisions.
'These too' are the priests and prophets or Ephraim's religious leaders. These suffer from being intoxicated with the wine of self-deception. This intoxication causes them to lapse in their ministry. The idea of prophets and seers drunk with wine links rhetorically to another passage in Isaiah that condemns the watchmen of the Lord's people for not watching. They fail to warn the people of the Lord's impending judgment, being oblivious to it themselves (Isaiah 56-10-12).
Where aberrations exist within a people’s leadership, whether political or religious, we should remember that such tend to be symptomatic of the general condition: our leadership reflects what we ourselves are, both at our best and at our worst.
8. "For all tables are filled with vomit; no spot is without excrement.
This imagery relates to the condemnation of religious leaders in verse 7 as well as to verse 9 which deals with revelation. It says that the people are being polluted. Like the food that is being set out for eating, the "tables," signify not literal tables, but, symbolically, the vehicle for conveying spiritual food. Rhetorically, the idea of tables denotes books or tablets containing the word of God. The contents of these tablets, however, are impure They abound with partially digested truths, regurgitated for the people to consume. Or they contain excrement, wholly polluted matter than profits nothing.
9. "Whom shall he give instruction? Whom shall he enlighten with revelation? Weanlings weaned from milk, those just taken from the breast?
Isaiah here introduces the idea of direct revelation, the purest form of the word of God, the spirit of revelation. This is the theme of Chapter 28, the Lord's answer to the people's self-deception. Isaiah questions their readiness to receive such pure instruction because they live on a diet of vomit and excrement. Even the best of them, Isaiah likens to babes newly weaned who are not yet capable of digesting solid food.
10. "For it is but line upon line, line upon line, precept upon precept, precept upon precept; a trifle here, a trifle there.
Isaiah uses repetition, assonance and alliteration in the Hebrew with which to parody satirically the rote method of learning God's word that the people of Ephraim use. This method allows men to dictate to others what portion of God's word they learn and at what pace they learn it. (See the Come, Follow Me curriculum in Gospel Library.)
The idea of precept upon precept appears in three other instances in scripture (2 Nephi 28:29-30; D&C 98:12; D&C 128:21). Each contrasts it with a higher form of revelation. Note the term more expresses the idea that those who receive the Lord's precepts will receive more that precepts. Those who do not, will receive less.
11. "Therefore, by incomprehensible speech and a strange tongue must he speak to these people,
12. "To whom he said, This is rest; let the weary rest! This is a respite! But they would not listen.
The expression "these people" expresses a negative view of the Lord's people. The "incomprehensible speech" refers to the foreign tongue of the Assyrians. If the Lord's people Ephraim do not receive the personal revelations the Lord desires to give them, then He must speak to them by another alien means.
The "rest" refers to the divine instruction and revelation mentioned in verse 9. If the people of Ephraim will receive the word of the Lord, it will provide a rest or respite for them, not only from the wearisome method of learning via precept upon precept, but by their becoming confidants of the Lord. D&C narrows the idea of rest even further:
"Now this Moses plainly taught to the children of Israel in the wilderness, and sought diligently to sanctify his people that they might behold the face of God;
But they hardened their hearts and could not endure his presence; therefore, the Lord in his wrath, for his anger was kindled against them, swore that they should not enter into his rest while in the wilderness, which rest is the fullness of his glory" (D&C 84:23-24 emphasis added).
13. "So to them the word of Jehovah remained: Line upon line, line upon line, precept upon precept, precept upon precept; a trifle here, a trifle there, that, persisting, they might lapse into stumbling and break themselves, become ensnared and be taken captive.
The imagery depicts dramatically the effect of being content with anything less than divine personal revelation. Isaiah sets the idea of precept upon precept--the rote method of learning where we just repeat back what the teacher taught--over against receiving direct instruction from the Lord. The one leads to rest, the other to bondage.
14. "Therefore hear the word of Jehovah, you scoffers who preside over these people in Jerusalem.
Any question who Jehovah is talking about? Jerusalem is a code name, identifying a latter-day people of the Lord.
15. "You have supposed, by taking refuge in deception and hiding behind falsehoods, to have covenanted with Death, or reached an understanding with Sheol, that, should a flooding scourge sweep through the earth, it shall not reach you" (Isaiah 28:6-15 emphasis added).
The people and their leaders are dubiously aware of a day of Judgment coming upon the earth, but they deceive themselves, however, about its real nature, hiding behind pretenses, unwilling to admit that it implicates them. The covenant with Death/Sheol denotes that the people and their leaders presume they can survive by any means other than repentance. It means relying on human counsel and being a party to all that the Lord has ordained shall pass away.
Isaiah also says this of us:
"Go now, write on tablets concerning them; record it in a book for the end-time, as a testimony forever.
They are a rebellious people, sons who break faith, children unwilling to obey the law of Jehovah,
Who say to the seers, See not! and to those with visions, Predict not what is right for us: flatter us; foresee a farce!
Get out of the way; move aside, off the path! Cease confronting us with the Holy One of Israel" (Isaiah 30:8-11 emphasis added)!
Or to me: "cease confronting us with the scriptures!"
*And you can only get this from the scriptures! If this example of the difference between His words and conference talks do not declare to you the difference, then you have a lot of work to do!
Nephi in 2 Nephi 28 uses the phrase "cursed is he" in place of "wo be unto" which he used in verse 26 to describe what happens to those who put their trust in man. He is speaking to those of us who have entered into the Lord's covenant who will suffer a covenant curse because they put their trust in man. Nephi expounds upon verse 26 by adding the descriptive phrases "putteth his trust in man, or maketh flesh his arm as curses associated with hearkening unto the precepts of men. Nephi describes us as we are today. And "wo be unto him that rejecteth the word of God" (2 Nephi 27:14)!
By the way did you fill in the blank in the introductory scripture?
This post is a prelude to the next: But We Have The Book! We Don't Need Any More Books!



